We're back with another Wine, Weed, Weird Historical Figure! John C Lilly was a big old nerd, whose scientific inquiry led to inventions we still use today, and some fascinating questions. He also fell into a K hole in his later life, and predicted the downfall of humanity due to AI. And you can't forget about the dolphins, bro! Dive in along with Ky as Emily explains, with medium attention to the timeline or research, the fascinating science of John C Lilly. Along the way, they explore the ethics of animal sex! Get ready for exploiting whales!

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