Teenaged John Roderick rode box car trains across the U.S; Aged 30 he walked from Hook of Holland to Istanbul. He was surprised to find he liked Coldplay & If he could only listen to one song for the rest of his life he'd pick Elliot Smith's Waltz #2

Nic's guest on this episode ismusician, singer, songwriter, podcaster, John Roderick.

John is the lead singer and guitarist of the Seattle band The Long Winters and co-hosts the podcasts Roderick On The Line with Merlin Mann and Omnibuswith formerJeopardy! champion and current host Ken Jennings, but that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of his remarkable life. Nic had a great time talking with John, and as a result this episode clocks in at a TSOS record 1hr 58 mins!