To work to change a system, you have to understand it first. But as today’s guest will show you, it turns out our understanding of American patriarchy is completely different than what we thought it was. Today I sat down with Anna Malaika Tubbs –– two-time New York Times bestselling author, sociologist, and storyteller with a PhD in sociology and a master's in gender studies from the University of Cambridge, plus a BA from Stanford (whew!) — and we're talking about American patriarchy. We get into why the Founding Fathers and the Constitution are inherently patriarchal, what history actually teaches us about how change happens, and why Anna wasn't surprised by Trump's reelection. I threw out almost every prepared question because this conversation was that good. This episode will make you furious and hopeful in the same breath.
Anna’s links:
Website: https://annamalaikatubbs.com/
Erased by Anna Malaike Tubbs: https://bookshop.org/a/90037/9781250876690
The Three Mothers by Anna Malaika Tubbs: https://bookshop.org/a/90037/9781250756138
Also mentioned in this episode:
Steve Phillips, How We Win the Civil War: https://bookshop.org/a/90037/9781620978481
Sarah McBride on Why the Left Lost on Trans Rights | The Ezra Klein Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlbNFsAGFRc
Bookshop.org website: http://Bookshop.org
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00:00 Intro
01:40 What "American patriarchy" actually means
06:37 The Founding Fathers' blueprint
15:21 The tug-of-war at the center of all American history
19:19 Why Trump's re-election wasn't a surprise
25:10 How slow progressive change actually works
31:55 Do all roads lead back to patriarchy?
36:04 "We haven't arrived anywhere new"
45:28 Moving rights to the states: a repeating tactic
52:48 Can you get rich in a system that wasn't built for you?
58:51 The power you already have
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