Are you waiting for someone else to change? We might be waiting for that forever. Because we have to change first. Listen in as adoptive mom and adoption professional Karen shares her insights into change, humility and grace.

Here's a link to Karen and her daughter Madi's book This I Know For Sure

More about Karen here:

https://www.instagram.com/karen_capson/

https://legacyadoptiontexas.com/

https://dfwchild.com/karen-capson/

Guests and the host are not (unless mentioned) licensed pscyho-therapists and speak from their own opinion only. Seek qualified advice if you need help.

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