What if the expertise that built foundation models could reshape how you think about AI's future? In this episode, Benjamin sits down with Soumya Batra, founder and CEO of WisePort AI and former safety lead on Llama 2 and Llama 3 at Meta, to explore how foundation models evolved from traditional NLP, why post-training holds the highest leverage for safety and controllability, and what natively agentic AI means for the next frontier of AI development. Whether you're curious about the model training lifecycle or wondering what comes after large language models, this conversation unpacks the technical strategies and vision shaping tomorrow's AI systems.

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