When Children Notice: Talking About Immigration, Racism and Belonging

When immigration raids and news headlines dominate conversations, children notice, even when adults think they're too young to understand. In this episode, host Dianne Haulcy reflects on Minnesota's federal immigration enforcement operation and talks with Season 7 Host Andre Dukes about why families need honest, age-appropriate conversations during uncertain times. You'll hear from play therapist and author Olivia Garcia, who explains how stories can help children make sense of difficult events while reinforcing that they belong. You’ll also hear from children's mental health specialist Brandon Jones, who shares practical strategies for limiting harmful media exposure, answering tough questions and helping young children feel supported. Together, they explore how race, identity and community shape children's experiences and why calm, truthful conversations are one of the most powerful tools adults have to build resilience.

Guest

Andre Dukes is a widely respected early childhood leader based in Minneapolis and trusted expert on the topic of identity development. Andre was the featured guest on the inaugural episode of Early Risers in 2021 and served as the podcast’s host in 2025. Andre has spent the last decade of his career focused on child development and academic success in North Minneapolis, a community with a deeply rooted history of strategic disinvestment and racial segregation. Andre serves as vice president of family and community impact at Northside Achievement Zone, a Minneapolis-based nonprofit.

Discussion Guide

Episode Resources

Olivia Garcia’s “Outside Our Window” e-book.

Meeting the Moment: How to talk with young children about ICE in our communities, a conversation with Andre Dukes, Olivia Garcia and Brandon Jones.

National Child Traumatic Stress Network - Guides for talking with children after traumatic or frightening events, recognizing stress responses, and promoting healing.

“Something Happened In Our Town” children’s book - Helps adults discuss racial injustice and community violence with young children in an age-appropriate way.

National Immigrant Justice Center – Know Your Rights – Legal rights information and family preparedness resources for immigrant communities.