Molly and Emese sit down with author and speaker Jen Hatmaker to talk about her new memoir Awake—a deeply personal look at divorce, faith, and starting over in midlife. After discovering her husband was living a double life, Jen’s world shifted overnight, forcing her to rebuild her own life, identity, and beliefs in public. They talk about navigating betrayal and gaslighting, parenting through upheaval, trusting your instincts, and what it really looks like to start over. Plus, how writing became a path forward—and why sometimes the only way out is through.

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