In this informal catch-up chat, Patrick, Katie and Lis question why historians are so reluctant to accept ghost stories as part of cultural heritage. Patrick tells Lis and Katie the surreal moment when he met one of our listeners in real life - plus Lis shares some good museum news happening in the world!

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"Facing Scrutiny, a Museum That Holds 12,000 Human Remains Changes Course," Zachary Small - The New York Times

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