We are joined by physician, author, former Detroit health director, and former Michigan governor candidate Dr. Abdul El-Sayed to talk about the power of state policy, the status of the Medicare for All movement, and the promise of state-level single payer campaigns.

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Read about Rep. Ro Khanna's bill to help states better use federal money to create state health plans here.

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Our theme song is from "Come Spring" by Noble Dust.

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