Numbness now seems to be the emotional default for so many of us — the result of living in a deranged reverse panopticon, where everything bad happening everywhere in the world (plus the fever dreams of robots) is beamed directly into your eyeballs all day long by our pitiless overlords. Jay joins poet, journalist and author Mark Abley to talk about confronting and escaping the brain-mushing machine (and Mark’s new book, Numb: The Politics of Overwhelm).
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