In this episode of Two Pastors and a Mic, we sit down with our friend Bill Vanderbush for one of the most honest, thought-provoking, and hope-filled conversations we’ve had on the podcast.
We talk about union with Christ, the finished work of Jesus, the roots of ancient Christianity, and why so many people are rediscovering the goodness of God in a fresh way. Bill shares powerful insights from his newest books, opens up about the current state of the Church, and challenges fear-based theology with a Gospel centered on love, identity, and belonging.
This conversation explores: • The ancient roots of union theology • Why the Gospel became more about what we do than what Jesus has done • The Council of Nicaea, church history, and modern Christianity • Fear, punishment, and the goodness of God • Why people are deconstructing unhealthy theology • Identity, sonship, and knowing God as Father • The difference between religion and authentic relationship with Jesus • Why “God is better than you think” changes everything
Whether you’re deconstructing old beliefs, rediscovering your faith, or simply hungry for deeper conversations about Jesus, this episode is packed with wisdom, grace, and hope.
00:42 - Bill’s Influence on the Podcast 02:44 - Writing for Future Generations 03:41 - The Sound of Your Blood Explained 05:13 - Reaching Deconstructed & New Age Audiences 06:00 - Union Begins in Genesis 07:42 - Identity, Union & Knowing Who You Are 09:25 - Ancient Christianity & Church History 11:23 - How Christianity Became Complicated 13:25 - Salvation, Belief & the Finished Work 15:33 - Ancient Creeds vs Modern Theology 17:23 - Living From Union With Christ 18:29 - Simplifying the Gospel Like Jesus 19:46 - Are We Headed Toward Another Church Council? 21:06 - Returning to a Christ-Centered Gospel 22:30 - Fear-Based Theology & Punishment 24:11 - Honoring Past Generations While Growing 26:16 - The Problem With “Heresy Hunting” 27:22 - God Is Better Than You Think 28:12 - Asking Jesus Directly 29:54 - Rediscovering Wonder & Childlike Faith 32:40 - Healing Orphan Thinking & Family Wounds 33:41 - Where to Find Bill Vanderbush 34:35 - Final Thoughts on God’s Goodness 35:42 - “You’re Loved & There’s Nothing You Can Do About It”
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