The federal government plans to kill 450,000 barred owls over 30 years to protect the northern spotted owl — while simultaneously narrowing the definition of harm under the Endangered Species Act to allow old-growth forest logging that will destroy the spotted owl's habitat.
Wayne Pacelle, president of Animal Wellness Action and the Center for Humane Economy, joins Corinna Bellizzi to expose the timber industry logic behind both moves. Together, they explain what's happening to wild horses and wolves on America's public lands, and share what 35 years of animal protection work has taught Wayne about how a slippery slope can lead to environmental devastation. We must act to protect America's open spaces and wild habitats.
00:00 — Introduction: The Spotted Owl, the Barred Owl, and the Question of Whose Fault It Is
04:00 — The 14-Mile Zone of Life: How Much Room Do We Actually Share?
06:00 — The Northern Spotted Owl: History, Habitat, and the Timber Wars
10:00 — The Barred Owl Is Not Invasive: The Range-Expansion Argument
14:00 — Human Beings Crossed the Bering Land Bridge: Applying the Same Logic
18:00 — The Plan to Shoot 450,000 Owls: Why It Won't Work
20:00 — The Endangered Species Act: How the Definition of Harm Is Being Gutted
23:00 — The One Big Beautiful Bill and the 60% Timber Increase
27:00 — Old Growth Redwoods, Carbon, and the True Cost of Logging
30:00 — The Lawsuit and What Comes Next
32:00 — Wild Horses: 80,000 vs. 4.3 Million Cattle
36:00 — Wolves: Delisted for Politics, Hunted by Snowmobile
37:00 — Fertility Control as a Humane Alternative
39:00 — Why Every Animal Sequesters Carbon
40:00 — The Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Its Origins
44:00 — The Environmental Groups That Got This Wrong
47:00 — Direct Mail, Organizational Efficiency, and the 95% Program Model
50:00 — What Animal Wellness Action Has Actually Accomplished
53:00 — Wildfires, Forest Management, and Fossil Fuels
57:00 — The Colorado River and the Water Crisis
01:00:00 — What You Can Do: Congress, Donations, and Showing Up
01:02:00 — Closing: Inspired and Enraged
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