Zapier's Chief Marketing and AI Transformation Officer Dan Slagen called a "code red" on his own marketing team, not because they were behind, but because he saw the bar moving from using AI to building with it.
In this AI Transformations episode, Slagen tells Mike Kaput how Zapier moved from AI adoption to AI-native work: three tiers of builders, an AI-powered "marketing brain," the "lossless marketing" idea behind it, and why working in public mattered more than any single tool.
Show Notes: Access the show notes and show links here
Timestamps:
00:00:00 — Intro
00:03:50 — Who Dan Slagen is and why Zapier's marketing story matters
00:06:12 — The February “code red”: what changed and why Dan called it
00:10:53 — How the team actually adopted AI
00:12:05 — Building Zapier's AI-powered marketing brain and “lossless marketing”
00:15:52 — Bringing in agentic expertise and charting the steps
00:21:25 — The behavioral side: how people interact with the machines
00:23:25 — How the average marketer connects to the central brain
00:26:31 — Impacts and benefits
00:30:30 — Where it got harder or messier than expected
00:32:11 — Dan's advice for leaders who are behind
This episode is presented by Google Cloud:
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