This week Tim is joined by Sarah Smith MP, the Labour representative for Hyndburn and Haslingden in Lancashire.
They discuss Andy Burnham's first months in No.10, his Catholic faith, and Sarah's push for SEND reform at the Department for Education.
Plus Tim tackles this week's Mucky Question - can you govern by giving power away? He digs into Andy Burnham's devolution plans and whether real power can ever truly leave Westminster.
And he answers a listener's question, as always. Got one of your own? Email farron@premier.org.uk.
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