The former UK Prime Minister and Chancellor joins Yonit and Jonathan for the latest of our Unholy Conversations — on the void populist nationalists have moved into, on the difference between hope and optimism, on the father whose projector slides taught him the kings of Israel before the kings of England, and on the Middle East peace deal he watched come apart in 2009.

Chapters:

00:06 Introduction to Gordon Brown and His New Book
05:48 The Connection Between Nationalism and Community Decline
12:46 Personal Responsibility and Moral Leadership
17:23 Addressing Anti-Semitism and Global Issues
22:41 Hope vs. Optimism in Times of Crisis
30:13 Britain's Role in Global Peace Efforts
32:27 Personal Reflections and Motivations of Gordon Brown
 

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