In the third episode of the State of it podcast, Horatio and David Murrin discuss a shifting world order: a declining, alliance-strained U.S.-led West versus a rising, industrially scaled China at the centre of an “axis of autocracy.” David argues China has converted economic weight into military power (missiles, drones, hypersonics), created large anti-access/area-denial zones, and now holds the upper hand.
David foresees a decade-long global conflict cycle unless the West urgently mobilises industrially and militarily, coheres alliances, and creates a “firebreak” by decisively backing Ukraine. India and Turkey are portrayed as pivotal fence-sitters; Taiwan is the likeliest trigger, potentially cascading into a wider Pacific war. Murrin is sharply critical of Western leadership—especially Trump—for fragmenting alliances and slowing the response.
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