During the 19th SIMM-podcast episode we assist to a conversation between biologist Olivier Hamant (Institut Michel Serre) and musician Jean-Luc Plouvier (Ictus Ensemble) on ideas and experiences they share with each other from their work on the natural world and the world of music-making. SIMM-founder Lukas Pairon interviews them.

Referenced during this podcast-episode: Philippe Boesmans, John Cage, "Un homme ça s'empêche" (Albert Camus), eco-anxiety, free jazz, Philip Glass, Glenn Gould, Goodhart's law, Olivier Hamant's 'Antidote to the cult of performance', Olivier Hamant's 'De l'incohérence - philosophie politique de la robustesse', Olivier Hamant's 'La troisième voix du vivant', Ictus Ensemble, Steve Reich's 'Music for 18 Musicians', Ircam, robustness, serendipity, Michel Serre Institut, Reich's psychoacoustic by-products of repetition and phase-shifting, Simon Sinek's conference on 'The Infinite Game', systems thinking, Gertrude Stein, stochastic processes in biology

The transcription of this episode can be found here.

And during this episode music is shortly heard from Steve Reich's 'Music for 18 Musicians' (played by the Steve Reich Ensemble), as well as rehearsal recordings of the Kinshasa based traditional drummers ensemble Beta Mbonda.

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