Chris Adams, Director of Technology and Policy at the Green Web Foundation, returns to Architect Tomorrow to unpack the first State of the Fossil-Free Internet report, subtitled The Dirty Data Centre Edition.We cover:00:00 Welcome and reintroduction02:00 The AMEE full-circle story: how Ollie and Chris first crossed paths in the late 2000s cleantech wave04:00 Why an annual report on the fossil-free internet, and why now06:00 Chris on "recarbonisation" as the real story of the last 18 months10:00 What actually counts as the "internet" for the report's boundary12:00 The hyperscale scale-up: from 25MW medium-sized to multi-gigawatt speculative projects15:00 Geopolitics, coal, and the Strait of Hormuz risk21:00 The biggest surprise in pulling the report together23:00 The Anthropic-Colossus deal: why moving fast means ignoring the laws26:00 "AI safety for whom?" and the sacrifice zone framing30:00 Brand safety as the practical route in for architects34:00 The SBTi scope 2 story, "May not Shall" lobbying, and the shift from zero-carbon to low-carbon43:00 "Surrender-based targets" and why gas lifecycle emissions matter46:00 The three levers: reduce demand, green the energy, democratise tech47:00 There is more than one way to architect AI: China, India, and the clock tower to wristwatch analogy52:00 Angry optimism, Wright's law, and why batteries are 45% cheaper year on year55:00 Data centre moratoria as meaningful policy56:00 CloseNote: This episode was recorded in May 2026, before the SBTi published the final Corporate Net-Zero Standard V2.0 during June 2026. The "low-carbon electricity" framing Chris discusses did survive into the final standard, though with additional constraints on companies with rapidly growing electricity demand. Referenced in this episode:Green Web Foundation report: https://fossilfree.greenweb.org/2026/Green Web Foundation tools: https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/green-web-check/ClimateAction.tech community: https://climateaction.tech/Green Software Foundation: https://greensoftware.foundation/Tech Carbon Standard: https://techcarbonstandard.org/Ollie's HM Treasury ID25 talk on balancing AI innovation and sustainability: https://blog.scottlogic.com/2025/11/12/balancing-ai-innovation-sustainability-hm-treasury-id25.htmlThere is more than one way to architect AI: https://blog.scottlogic.com/2025/02/21/there-is-more-than-one-way-to-architect-ai.htmlChris Adams on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisadams-berlin/Oliver Cronk on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/cronkyNote that Oliver now works as a fractional chief architect and sustainable tech advisor at https://cronkadvisory.comArchitect Tomorrow is an independent, community-led podcast for enterprise, business, and technology architects. LinkedIn Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/architect-tomorrow-6864159042021949440/#GreenSoftware #FossilFreeInternet #EnterpriseArchitecture #SustainableAI #DataCentres #ClimateTech #ArchitectTomorrow
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