Canada’s energy future is one of the most consequential—and contentious—questions facing the country. Is global demand for oil and gas set to remain strong for decades, or are economic and technological shifts already weakening the business case for major fossil fuel projects? Max Fawcett and Heather Exner-Pirot square off in a spirited debate (4:00) on LNG, energy transition, climate policy, and what comes next for Canada’s economy. This Real Talk Debate is presented by our friends at Mercedes-Benz Edmonton West.
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