The word "narcissist" has been thrown around so casually that it has effectively replaced calling someone an "asshole." However, this reflexive labeling often prevents the very thing that could actually heal the dynamic. In this episode, Joe and Brett offer a different lens on narcissism: not as a category of "bad people," but as a spectrum we are all on, rooted in an inability to feel.
Together, they explore what's actually happening underneath narcissistic behavior, why the person on the receiving end is often doing very similar internal work, and how genuine healing happens on both sides of the dynamic.
They discuss:
Why "narcissist" has become a defensive way to call someone an asshole
Alexander Lowen's definition: narcissism as the inability to feel
The spectrum from aggressive to passive narcissism (and how everyone lands somewhere on it)
Why the "I'm more humble than you" move is still narcissism
The role healthy narcissism plays in leadership, art, and building anything meaningful
Containing vs. confronting: how to hold a loving boundary that doesn't trigger shame
Why so many people who get called assholes actually want to be met with a boundary
The symbiotic pull: why some people go through life looking for a narcissist to attach to
Handing off your doubt as the seductive comfort of narcissistic relationships
Why healed narcissism becomes the leadership we all actually want
Working with your own anger to meet the attack without collapse or counter-attack
Owning your own narcissism: the shadow work required on both sides
Seeing the innocence: the child who was never cared for, built for war
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