In 2018, I took an important road trip with an old friend that led to the creation of this show. On that trip, the two of us were both experiencing a lot of transition in life. 


At this point, it’s been four years since I’ve seen or spoken to that friend and I’ve always wondered what happened in his life after we took that trip… so I caught up with him to ask. 


  • This episode was created as part of the ‘Roundabout’ podcast series from Statefarm and Acast
  • Host: Zach Mack
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