Natalie has spent her life confronting some of the most confronting realities of our time. Yet she has remained energised, hopeful and committed. Her secret, she says, is simple. She laughs. She seeks out people who make her laugh. She allows humour to coexist with seriousness.

Find out how she does this on this week's Humourology Podcast.

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