Unlock every episode, ad-free, on this podcast and more with Kinderling Premium. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts or kinderlingkids.com/premiumHow do you make art you can’t see?

Kinderling kids – Pip and Lottie – find out this and more when they meet up with a very special artist called Ross Manning.

Ross is a sound artist who turns everyday objects - like cans, rocks and even fans - into instruments that make music like you’ve never heard before. But why? As a way to explore humanity’s ongoing and increasingly complex relationship with technology.

In this episode, Ross answers the kids’ big art questions like; “When is having a big imagination better than knowledge”? And “Why is breaking the rules sometimes okay”?

Listen now to Outside The Lines with Ross Manning.

Outside the Lines is a Kinderling co-production with the Queensland Art Gallery and Gallery of Modern Art’s Children’s Art Centre. This production was possible thanks to the generous support of the Neilson Foundation.

Produced by Caitlin Gibson

Sound Design and Mix by Camilla Hannan

Executive Producer: Lorna Clarkson 

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