In today's episode, our hosts Brian McLaren, Randy Woodley, and Edith Woodley explore the story of Cain and Abel through a lens of Indigenous wisdom, considering the origins of human violence and the contrast between “earth people” and “empire people.” Together they reflect on harmony, balance, and the Biblical call to be our “brother’s keeper.” 

Listen in as our hosts unpack Genesis 4 alongside a Cherokee story of the terrapin and the wolves, consider how violence and domination shape human communities — and how choosing nonviolence and reciprocity can help us find another way. 

Resources: 

Find the transcript for today's episode here.

Learn more about the Woodleys and Eloheh here. 

Pick up a copy of Randy’s new book, How Western Christianity Got It Wrong. 

Journey to Eloheh by Randy and Edith Woodley explores how Indigenous values lead us to harmony and well-being. 

Discover more about composer April Stace ⁠here.

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