John welcomes journalist Anand Giridharadas to discuss his new best-selling book, “Man in the Mirror: Hope, Struggle, and Belonging in an American City,” about the death of Jordan Neely on a New York subway train after being placed in a chokehold by another passenger, Daniel Penny. Anand explains what drew him to the headline-making story of Neely, a homeless, mentally ill Black man, and the white Long Islander who subdued him, that became a Rorschach test for the country’s political and racial tribes; and how despite their conflicting views of public order in post-pandemic America, those tribes are animated by a shared sense of abandonment by the institutions meant to protect and serve us all, which Giridharadas argues is the defining emotion of our time.

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