What if the leadership model we’ve been celebrating for decades is the very thing holding teams back?

In this episode of People First!, Morag Barrett sits down with Bill Flynn — leadership thinker, author of Further, Faster, and longtime student of the science of success — to challenge the myth of the heroic leader.

Drawing on 30 years of research and lived experience, Bill shares:

  • Why having one real relationship at work matters more than talent alone
  • Why the future of leadership belongs to architects, not heroes

This is a candid, grounded conversation about relationships, opportunity, and what actually creates impact over time.
If you care about leadership that scales, cultures that last, and careers built on connection — this episode is for you.

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