In this episode, Kris and Ken tackle one of Jesus' most challenging calls: "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Me."

What does self-denial actually mean? Is Jesus calling us to misery, or to freedom? And why is this the essential first step of discipleship?

They explore why a disciple is someone who lets Jesus change what they care about—and how surrendering self-rule transforms our priorities, our purpose, and ultimately our mission. Because until self is denied, self still decides what matters.

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