Episode 168 with guest Sorin Patilinet, PepsiCo's Global Marketing Effectiveness and author of Marketing Effectiveness: Applying Marketing Science for Brand Growth 

This week's episode is a technical skill that is fundamental to marketing leading the long-term commercial agenda – it's marketing effectivenessWe'll unpack what marketing effectiveness really means, the difference between effectiveness and efficiency, the importance of pricing being in marketing's remit and what makes a great dashboard (and why you should resist changing it) 

Joining Abby is 'The Marketing Engineer' Sorin PatilinetGlobal Marketing Effectiveness Executive and author of the best-selling book 'Marketing Effectiveness: Applying Marketing Science for Brand Growth'. With 20 years' experience in global roles, Sorin has helped shape how some of the world's most iconic brands measure and prove their impact. Previously he built and led the marketing science and testing solutions at Mars for over 14 years before moving to PepsiCo, where today he continues to turn marketing science into business growth.

 

Key takeaways 

  • Marketing effectiveness is holistic… it's not just ROI and creative excellence but a holistic understanding of the effect of everything marketers do on business results 

  • The biggest barrier is mindset, not tools… Sorin believes marketers need to spend more time identifying which decisions actually drive the biggest impact on the top and bottom line – and then finding the data to support those decisions, not the other way round. 

  • Pricing belongs back in marketing's remit… Sorin argues marketing has lost its voice in the boardroom partly because it has given up pricing and product to finance and R&D. 

  • Effectiveness beats efficiency… efficiency is effectiveness divided by cost, so focusing on effectiveness improves efficiency as a natural by-product. 

  • Don't change a winning dashboard… Sorin measured advertising's sales impact the same way for 14 years at Mars. Consistency of method, even as data and partners evolve, builds the trust and shared language that gets stakeholders to actually act on the numbers. 

 

00:00 — Welcome to the Whole Marketer Podcast 

02:02 — Introducing Sorin Patilinet 

02:25 — What Is Marketing Effectiveness? 

03:40 — Why It's Not ROI or Creative Excellence 

04:30 — What Inspired Sorin to Write the Book 

07:18 — Bringing the Brand's Voice to Marketing Science 

09:41 — Where the Profession Still Has Capability Gaps 

11:02 — The Biggest Barrier: Mindset Over Tools 

12:49 — Are We Slaves to Data Availability? 

14:01 — Ranking Decisions by Commercial Impact 

15:23 — Why Pricing Is the Link Between Marketing and the Boardroom 

16:22 — Why Marketing Has Lost Its Voice in the Boardroom 

19:11 — Have We Given Pricing Up, or Had It Taken Away? 

20:44 — Effectiveness vs Efficiency: The Formula That Matters 

23:32 — The Only True Measure of Creative Effectiveness 

25:05 — Rethinking the 60/40 Rule for Short and Long Term 

26:47 — Why Every Business Needs Its Own Time Frame 

29:18 — Building the Right Data Sources 

29:52 — Why Decisions Should Come Before Data 

32:13 — The Case for Experimentation 

32:46 — Where AI Actually Helps Measurement 

33:05 — Why You Shouldn't Keep Changing Your Dashboard 

34:51 — The Hidden Cost of Changing Your Methodology 

36:33 — Setting the Right KPIs at the Strategic Planning Stage 

36:58 — Finding Your Organisation's Flywheel 

38:59 — How Data-Driven Is Your Organisation's Culture? 

39:22 — The Balance of Art, Science and Human Intuition 

40:36 — Sorin's Advice for Marketers of Tomorrow 

 

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