With back-to-school season in full swing, we've got two Fellows and public administration education experts on the podcast: David Van Slyke, dean of The Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs at Syracuse University, and Susan Gooden, professor and former dean of the L. Douglas Wilder School of Government and Public Affairs at Virginia Commonwealth University. Both join host James-Christian Blockwood for a very educational discussion.

They share challenges and triumphs in public administration education, and what may be next for schools around the country.

Management Matters is a presentation of the National Academy of Public Administration produced by and edited by Matt Hampton. 

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