Katie & Ilana are both the co-owners of the ultra-successful platform Goodtype and creative freelancers, so you already know they have a ton of advice to give.

Not only are they teaching you their best lessons on this episode, but they’re bringing you The Kernference so you can learn from their whole network! Also, did we mention our Founder & CEO, Drew Melton, will be speaking at The Kernference?! Oh, yes! Get all the deets and more on this week's episode! 

You can follow Kaite & Ilana on Instagram and GoodType here!

Hosted by Caton Vance & Andrea Mejia-Madriz.

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