Polish and Spanish Foreign Ministers on Migration, EU Borders and Solidarity

From Poland’s eastern frontier with Belarus to Spain’s borders in Ceuta and Melilla, solidarity is becoming a test of Europe’s ability to deter external threats and preserve freedom within the Schengen area.At the sidelines of Warsaw Security Forum, Wojciech Przybylski speaks with Radosław Sikorski, Poland’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, and José Manuel Albares Bueno, Spain’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, about what European solidarity, migration and borders.Sikorski argues that states must retain the right to control their borders and determine who enters, while Albares stresses the need to combine firm action against irregular migration and human trafficking with legal migration, development cooperation and respect for asylum and human rights.How can Europe defend its borders while remaining consistent with international law? Listen to the episode.(00:00) Teaser(00:37) Introduction(01:25) Spain and Poland's common position toward EU borders(03:16) Albares on whether Spain is ready to die for Gdansk? (04:55) Sikorski on the EU's solidarity(05:46) Sikorski on Palestine, Ukraine and accusations of double standards(07:11) Albares on protecting international law(08:13) Sikorski on what Poland wants from the EU's migration policy(10:11) Albares on Israel, asylum and legal pathwaysThis interview is a co-production of Visegrad Insight and Agenda Pública. It was conducted in Warsaw by Wojciech Przybylski , editor-in-chief of Visegrad Insight , together with Marc López Plana, editor and director of Agenda Pública.