In this episode of GENN, Nick Breeze talks to Professor Mike Berners-Lee, Chair of the National Emergency Briefing (NEB), about why the UK is “not ready” for the accelerating climate and nature emergency.
Visit: https://nebriefing.org
They begin with the recent Europe-wide heat dome that led to an estimated 20,000 excess deaths and record breaking UK temperatures, then explore what this tells us about how exposed our societies have become to extreme weather. Mike explains why the conditions we are living through now are likely to be the least extreme we will ever see in the UK, with a super El Niño expected to drive even more intense heat in the near term.
The conversation covers the UK’s ageing infrastructure, under investment in resilience and the rapid shift from “one in a thousand year” events to risks that now carry a realistic chance of occurring every year. Mike argues that the climate and nature transition is entirely doable and economically attractive, highlighting analysis that shows large scale investment in net zero and retrofit pays back rapidly and creates skilled jobs across the country.
Nick and Mike dig into the role of disinformation and comforting narratives such as “we cannot afford it” or “Britain is only one per cent of global emissions so does not matter,” and why these stories amount to denial of the scale of response now needed. Mike explains how the NEB takes a different view of the public, treating people as capable of handling difficult truth, and how honest communication can improve psychological health by replacing vague anxiety with clear agency.
They discuss systemic risk across food security, national security and infrastructure breakdown, including the possibility of a future food shock that could act as a national wake up call. Mike describes the NEB’s work to create trusted briefings for leaders and the public, the energy in the Westminster briefing where no one felt the situation was exaggerated, and the growing movement around the People’s Emergency Briefing film presented by Chris Packham.
You will also hear how NEB screenings are snowballing across the UK and beyond, how the initiative is building support for a televised government supported national emergency briefing on climate and nature, and why Mike believes there is “nothing not to like” about a fair green transition that strengthens communities, farmers and livelihoods.
The episode closes with a focus on agency: from attending NEB screenings and inviting MPs, to getting involved in local resilience and non partisan political work, and helping to take this emergency briefing model international. Mike sets out a theory of change for how public engagement, honest information and systemic action can still turn the tide, even in the face of deep geopolitical barriers.
Key topics:
Europe-wide heat dome and excess deaths
Why “we are not ready” for extreme weather
UK infrastructure, heatwaves and super El Niño
Net zero investment, jobs and payback
Disinformation, denial and national narratives
Food security, biodiversity and systemic risk
The National Emergency Briefing and People’s Emergency Briefing film
Public agency, psychological health and community resilience
How to get involved and help NEB go mainstream
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