We speak to the Emeritus Head of the Health Department for Western Cape, Beth Engelbrecht, about the COVID-19 response in South Africa.

We discuss the challenges of a public health response the context of massive economic inequalities, large vulnerable populations, and the ever present social and economic legacies of Apartheid.

Beth provides insights into the benefits of dispersed leadership, and the existing health and social infrastructure that has helped South Africa manage the enormous challenges above.

Host: Peter Harrington Editor: Emmie Fairbairn Producer: Katherine Valentine

Listen to 'No Pata Pata' in full here: https://youtu.be/8M9O4sPISc0

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