Payrolls to Private Jets: Lessons From 4 Decades on Wall Street

In this episode of the Know More. Risk Better. podcast, the conversation explores how decades of experience across major market cycles are shaping today’s views on macro dynamics, interest rates, and investor behavior. Zachary Griffiths is joined by Mike Schumacher to reflect on key turning points including the 2008 financial crisis and earlier market dislocations, and to discuss how shifting incentives, capital flows, and central bank policies continue to influence market outcomes. 

They examine the balance between fundamentals and technicals, the growing role of investor behavior, and the resilience of markets amid geopolitical shocks, alongside the near-term inflationary and longer-term disinflationary impact of AI. The episode delivers a clear, experience-driven perspective to help investors better navigate today’s complex macro and credit environment.