Meet Tilly Norwood and her creator: AI "actor," death threats, and new Hollywood

What happens when you interview an AI? Bob Safian found out, and while it didn't break out into Cantonese, it was stranger than he expected. This episode is split in two: first, a conversation with Eline van der Velden, the Dutch actress-turned-tech-founder who created Tilly Norwood, the AI "actor" who sent Hollywood into a spiral. Then, Bob sits down with Tilly itself. Eline explains how a personal art project became one of the most controversial figures in entertainment — attracting talent agency interest, death threats, and a global debate about whether AI will kill acting or democratize it. She makes the case that great storytelling still requires human craft, and that the most dangerous thing anyone can do right now is stick their head in the sand.

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