(0:00) Dylan Field joins the show: Figma's origin story and mission
(3:16) Adobe's $20B deal blocked: inside the antitrust fight
(12:29) Is AI killing SaaS? Frontier Companies vs. Figma, the "SaaS apocalypse"
(18:52) Creativity in the AI era: why taste and boldness win
(36:02) Human agency, AI's promise, and what comes next
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