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#167: Rebuilding capital for the industrial age with Marianne Abib-Pech

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 Marianne Abib-Pech, an international finance executive, investor, and author. Marianne previously led the strategic repositioning and expansion of Shell Aviation, a $30 billion global business, and went on to found LTF Partners and co-found Transitions First.She is now leading the development of a new industrial capital platform targeting $300 million to support the commercialisation and scale-up of industrial deep tech.Marianne is also the author of The FT Guide to Leadership.

We cover the following in our conversation:

2:30 – Non-obvious patterns investors miss about industrial vs. software value creation (the "J curve")

5:12 – Why industrial investing requires underwriting an entire system, not just a technology

8:36 – Case study: AgriLoops, going from pilot to physical plant

10:55 – Where traditional VC breaks down for long-cycle, capital-intensive sectors

14:26 – The funding architecture problem and how to redesign it

17:11 – "Bits vs. atoms": the shift back toward industrial/physical investment

22:47 – Geopolitics: US-Iran, Russia, supply chain fragmentation reshaping capital flows

27:30 – Europe's opportunity to lead in industrial deep tech

32:10 – Lessons from Shell Aviation: process discipline, security of supply, collaboration over competition

35:53 – M&A in frontier markets: risk vs. perception of risk, pattern recognition over "intuition"

46:02 – The GE furnace analogy for continuous industrial systems

46:17 – Where AI creates real defensible value in physical industries (and where capital is mis-priced)

50:32 – Leadership in an age of AI and geopolitical uncertainty

51:35 – "It's courage" , one-word definition of leadership today

55:24 – Women in investing and cognitive diversity in deep tech

58:30 – Closing question: what's systematically underestimated — society's capacity to build

60:54 – Final thoughts


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