In this episode of the Scrum.org Community Podcast, Dave West sits down with Tomasz Maj, Head of Product Ops at Odevo, to explore how a rapidly growing property management giant is navigating the AI revolution. Odevo faces a unique challenge: managing a massive, diverse portfolio across the northern hemisphere while balancing centralized scale with local autonomy.

Tomasz pulls back the curtain on "vibe coding"—the democratization of development that allows non-technical staff to build functional tools—and how Odevo balances this "wild west" of innovation with rigorous security and GitHub-backed governance.

Key topics include:

  • The Operating Model of Diversity: Why Odevo chooses not to have a single "master platform" and how that fuels speed.
  • Vibe Coding in the Wild: How accountants and maintenance teams are using AI to solve their own data problems.
  • The 5-Step AI Engineer: Inside Odevo’s comprehensive training program, from prompting to agentic development.
  • Governance vs. Innovation: How to implement "Module Zero" (legal, GDPR, and security) without killing the creative spirit.


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