In this episode Ben talks about the Deep Magic Seminars, the stuff that nobody sees, throwing kids into swimming pools, lying on a rock like a lizard, Spartan kicking wasps, commercial feedback loops, dying like a dog in a hot car and having adventures in the grey.

Join magician and creative artist Ben Earl as he takes you on a captivating, deeply personal, journey to explore meaning and mastery within magic. Welcome to 'The M Word'

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