Pablo Eskobear is well known in Grand Rapids, Michigan, having recently won INSTRUMENTAL ALBUM OF THE YEAR at the Jammies. He produced tracks for a bunch of artists locally and nationally, including past guest Sonny Ski (listen to "The Grandest").

 Among other things, we talk about:

  • Pablo's "standard" musical beginnings
  • his deviation from school band into metal drumming
  • how he got into hip hop
  • collaborating vs solo projects
  • performing
  • making his studio
  • building your brand
  • promotion
  • social media jail
  • AI in music

And at the end there's a rough cut of some music we made (based on an idea Kirk Ross and I had, which may possibly turn into something...).

Check out Pablo on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, and his website to find out when he has new stuff coming out. Listen to his award-winning music  on SPOTIFY as well.

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