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Cleaning :
A: ˇ Master is it so that not only our bad things have to be cleaned away but also our good things?
B: No, along cleaning, grossness, you remove the grossness. Or if you have got some vicious thought, bad thoughts, well alongside cleaning is also. They are also consumed.
A: But when a man becomes zero, doesn't it mean that also all his good things have left?
B: Yes, yes nothingness, I have written, translation, nothingness.
That this ? You feel that there is nothing there. A sort of a state which ? I do not find the words ? I will have to coin quote, "Silence without silence".
There must be silence, but without silence. In a wrong way I am expressing.
Or in the best way. A lump of ... A lump of salt is there, without salt.
The stone is there, but saltiness is not there.
The people often complain, "well I have been doing it for a month ... or eight days or ten days, but I do not find, just a rush of ... a trail of thoughts is there". For this purpose there is the method. And you want the result first, but how is it possible?