Thirty years after the emergence of Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC), this inaugural episode brings together two voices deeply connected to its legacy. Host Sam Patrick sits down with Dr. Frank Butler, the architect of modern TCCC, for a focused conversation on the lessons that shaped the framework—and the challenges now facing its future. Drawing from operational experience and contemporary observations, including tourniquet misuse seen in Ukraine, the discussion examines how hard-won medical knowledge evolves, adapts, and risks being forgotten when training and doctrine drift from first principles. This episode is a reflection on where TCCC began, what it has become, and why its core ideas must continue to be taught, questioned, and reinforced for the next generation. This episode is sponsored by The Honor Foundation.

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