I recorded this conversation several years ago… and never released it. Until now.
It has changed the way I think about exhaustion. Clinical psychologist Emma Gray argues that many of us aren’t just tired- we have become fundamentally disconnected from our own bodies.
If you have ever pushed through deep exhaustion, ignored your instincts, or struggled to know what you actually need, this conversation is for you.
In this episode, we unpack:
The "Good Girl" Lie: Why women are conditioned to put everyone else first.
Somatic Disconnection: How your body tries to speak to you before it burns out.
The Self-Care Fallacy: Why standard rest advice fails when you are truly stuck.
The 3 Questions: Surprisingly simple prompts to reconnect with your inner wisdom.
Episode Chapters:
00:00 I Never Released These... 00:39 Meet Emma Gray 02:03 Why Women Lose Themselves 05:28 The Self-Care Lie 07:36 Why We Always Put Ourselves Last 08:47 The Science of Rest 11:53 How To Listen To Your Body 15:37 The Boundary That Changed Everything 18:07 Values, People Pleasing & Saying No 20:06 When You Can't Walk Away 22:23 The People Who Shaped Emma 22:59 How She Wants To Be Remembered 23:48 One Final Message
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This episode is part of I Never Released These... The Lost Tapes, a special 12-part series featuring interviews I recorded between 2022 and 2024 that never made it into the world... until now.
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