In this episode, we speak with Katie Tobin, who worked in the NSC in the Biden Administration and the UNHCR before that on a range of migration, refugee and cross-border security issues. We discuss how conflict impacts migration flows to the US and the different tools the US has to address migration resulting from conflict, natural disasters, and violence.

Podcast Production Credits:
Interviewing: Sabrina Beaver, Rushikesh Jadhav, and Marina Keller Soto de Melo
Editing: Sabrina Beaver
Production: Sabrina Beaver

Music from #Uppbeat :
https://uppbeat.io/t/tim-schaufert/it-doesnt-have-to-end

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