Most people don’t struggle with faith— they struggle with how it’s been presented.
In this conversation with Matt Makela, we talk about what a real relationship with Jesus looks like without the pressure, performance, or pretending.
Matt is an aircraft mechanic, husband of 35 years, and father of four adopted children. He shares how his perspective shifted—and how that changed the way he approaches faith, family, and everyday life.
We get into: Why religion can feel heavy
What it looks like to talk to God honestly
The story behind adopting four children
And what changed after Next Level Experience
Nothing polished. Nothing forced. Just a real conversation.
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