In this podcast, Julian and Katia discuss their experiences around leadership, both as singles and as a married couple doing ministry together. As two gifted individuals, they have found that mutual submission and honoring each-others moments of favor have been key to a healthy marriage and ministry. An identity that is grounded in God leads to a flourishing gift that doesn’t force someone to be something they are not. They are also passionate about creating safe spaces for single men and women to walk in their leadership gifts. Their team approach to celebrating leadership within one another displays a beautiful picture of what the body of Christ is intended to look like.

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