11. Digitas' James Whatley on the evolution of social media

James Whatley has been a social media geek so long he practically invented the term. These days he's a strategy partner at Digitas, where he helps brands make the most of digital platforms.

James joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to talk about how social media has evolved over the past 15 years, how brands use it well, whether TikTok is a flash in the pan, Facebook’s PR slip-ups, why it’s so hard to respect modern political marketing online, and more, as we kick back for a less formal interview than usual.

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news, share the latest tests and tools you need to know about, and Martin tries to get Matt into BoJack Horseman.

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