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181. Joseph Grenny on releasing fear, guilt, & unrealistic expectations to create connection & hope.

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This week on the What Now Podcast, I sit down with Joseph Grenny to discuss parenting through addiction, agency, disappointment, and uncertainty. Joseph shares why he believes many parents suffer from "dirty pain"—the unnecessary suffering created by expectations, fear, and self-blame—and how changing our perspective can transform the way we show up for the people we love.

We also talk about the myth of the perfect family, why God works on a much longer timeline than we do, and how vulnerability creates deeper connection within families and faith communities.

If you've ever wondered whether you're doing enough as a parent, this conversation offers a hopeful and freeing perspective.

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