This week we're joined by John Fitch and Max Frenzel, the authors of the brand new book "Time Off". John and Max present some challenging ideas around how we should rest as hard as we play - seriously! We loved talking to them about their book, their lives, the fact that we were in three different timezones and two different countries while we recording this, and more! Definitely a must-listen.

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