Episode 58: Peter Bergen – Kirkpatrick, UFOs, and the Pentagon

Peter Bergen is CNN’s national security analyst, a vice president at New America, a professor of practice at Arizona State University, and the host of the Audible podcast “In the Room with Peter Bergen.” 

He recently interviewed Sean Kirkpatrick, the former head of the Pentagon UFO investigation office, AARO. 

We chat about UFOs, National Security, Self-licking ice cream cones, and aliens.